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Booth & Brennan: Archetypes or Mold Breakers?

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Good morning!

This is sort of a continuation of yesterday’s Top Five Tuesday discussion; not that I want to continue to say what I DON’T want to have happen between B&B, but more that I’m interested in your thoughts on whether or not B&B (as characters) fit the standard storyline, or if they are setting new grounds.

I’ve seen people ‘warn’ Castle writers (not to their face or anything) that they should be wary of going the way of BONES. Hmmm…I don’t know what I think about that. For one thing, I mostly love the way of BONES, so any show that tried to be like it would be good, in my book. At least, for the most part, BONES has had story to back up their ‘will they/won’t they’, making it not TOO soapy (for the most part).

Are we looking at a classic “Boy meets girl; Boy loses girl; Boy gets girl back” storyline? Or is it more like “Boy meets girl; boy loses girl; Boy gets partner”? And what does THAT mean?

I guess what I’m trying to ask is this: If the end result for B&B is that “it’s all good”, and it will be…

…is it possible that they got their under different means, by breaking the mold, or are we really just seeing the same type of storyline being played out?   In what other ways do B&B break the mold, and in what ways do they fit the standard archetype of a romantic relationship?

Thoughts?

Peace, Love & Bones

~S

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38 thoughts on “Booth & Brennan: Archetypes or Mold Breakers?

  1. Hi there

    This will be my first comment on this site!
    I think that no one should go the Bones way. Every show should set their path and walk it- for better or worse. Bones has and it made it the One Show in my heart.
    Castle is different. Their premise was different from Bones. less serious, less with the ghosts and more with the humour. And I like it too. (Not love, mind you, not like Bones…)
    Are they archetypes? Yes, they are. They are just a boy and a girl, both very alpha, and they face hurdles on their way to happy ever after- or, in Bonesian language, their eventually. Nothing new there. But they are- or the show is- unique in the language, in the flaws of the characters. What attracts us to Bones, the show is, in my opinion, the traditional will they/ won’t they peppered with their meaningful looks and that is left unsaid. In fact, most of what is Bones, was it is not there. Sort of like “The words that weren’t”. That may be their most distinguishing accomplishment. To tell a story with silences. And I love that. I love that we can sit here and discuss what is in those unspoken words.
    Is it a new way to do television? Yes it is. But that is stuff for a different post or a different reply.

    Should I mention now that I like this little place you have here?

    Love

    Jane

  2. I personally think that Bones has broken the mold when it comes to its Booth and Brennan. Instead of allowing them to jump in the sack the first chance they had, the writers have put us on a roller coaster they call Bones. Boy does meet girl, he gets rejected, they don’t talk for almost a year, boy meets girl again, they become partners, both are very leary about getting closer than their partnership, after awhile boy gets rejected again, but; and this is the most important part, their friendship and partnership, though rocky, still holds. I think the story telling has been remarkable. The writers have put their main characters through the wringer and us with them. I love this show because it is not your usual story. It has depth and the characters are not one demensional. They have complex pasts and complex futures. I could have used a little less anxiety this season; but, without that anxiety Booth and Brennan would not now be moving towards each other in a realistic fashion. Most shows give you a little drama and then the main characters either forgive each other over night and all seems perfect or the characters break up and we have a hate match that just drags on and on. Bones has given us Booth and Brennan with all of their flaws and angst, who try mightily to overcome their problems and be the good people they hope they are. We love them for being more like us and less like the perfect tv couple. We see a little of us in them and hope they will be happy in the end.

  3. I don’t know what this “Castle” thing is so I have no idea if they’re copying “Bones,” or whatever.

    But I do think in some ways, “Bones” is a pattern we’ve seen before.

    The characters themselves fit the usual mold. Booth is the Hero. Tall, handsome, a loner. Wounded in a way designed to appeal to female viewers – an abandoned, abused child grown up to be a Protector of the weak and fallen. Searching for love and home and family. His character traits read like a check-off list headed “What makes women swoon?”

    Brennan is the Hero Feminine. Smart, beautiful, strong. A tender heart beneath a tough exterior. Trials at a young age cement her independence and desire to remain aloof. Willing to bend and adjust to the needs of the Hero.

    Really, there are no new stories under the sun. Everything is recycled in some shape or fashion. The only way “Bones” could be different from any other show that went before is if Brennan and Booth *don’t* end up together. Otherwise, you have a romance cloaked in a science cloaked in a romance.

    The steps of the journey are different but the yellow brick road is still paved with yellow bricks.

  4. I agree with Jane Bond that it has the awesome ability to tell a story with many things left unsaid. People complain about the show being too soap opera-y, but this show would be a lot more sappy if they spoke everything that they are feeling (and I might even still watch it).

    I can’t really say too much without bias because I love this show – I really just want to say there’s NO other show like BONES, but my evidence is anecdotal, :). It’s been my favorite show, hands-down, for over a year now and I’ve never been invested in a show like this before.

    There may be no new stories under the sun, but each person/character is unique. DB and ED certainly are. In light of the other stories out there on TV now, I think this one rarely gets told because of the depth that it requires.

  5. Well it’s certainly a type of archetypical romance in that the lovers meet, have a period of bliss followed by a misunderstanding, period of despair and eventual reconciliation. The difference is that in most romances the bliss part includes sex and the misunderstanding/despair part doesn’t include one of the lovers proposing to someone else.

    During the whole Hannah debacle, I read a lot of complaints about Hannah’s presence ruining any future relationship between B&B. That Booth went from Brennan being The One and “the standard” to number two on the list of why he’s drinking. The idea that Booth actually loved Hannah – as the show creators repeatedly said, was abhorrent. That he said “I love you” to Hannah meant he could never say it with meaning to Brennan. That he actually proposed to her was devastating and there seems to be this idea out there in parts of fandom that unless Booth renounces all of that, Brennan will always be a consolation prize.

    And I admit, I felt that pain too – after Daredevil, ohhhh was my heart hurt. It hurt to see Booth propose to that “other” woman. But after I recovered from the initial shock I reminded myself, these characters are complicated adults, with long, complicated pasts and equally complicated presents.

    I would call their story: Man and woman meet, come to love each other, doubt each other, lose each other, rediscover each other, choose each other.

    I admit, I am biased because my spouse and I were separated for over two years and reconciled; and during that time we both knew we could be a tolerable version of happy with other people. But ultimately we’d rather have each other, even though it’s a much harder relationship to maintain.

    The vows I made when we were in our 20’s and in love for the first time were sincere and real, but the ones we made the second time, in our 40’s, when we knew exactly what we were getting into and just how much we could hurt each other – well they were a whole different level of commitment.

  6. Oops, I mean ‘There’ not their! ***Hides face in English Major Shame ***

    will fix it later, I’m at work, so can’t get to it. 🙂

  7. I actually think the mold-breaking happens where Booth is the sensitive partner, and Brennan is the one who has the most problems with expressing feelings. Usually it’s the sensitive girl who melts the emotionally blocked guy (going back to the whole squeeling damsel vs. stoic hero cliché).

    The whole ‘waiting for years until they get together’ thing is not new, but the relationship is surprisingly three dimensional. Its not just UST, but it’s also friendship, affection, partnership, love, and primal sexual attraction. And yet they’re not quite ready yet.

    • And that’s exactly why it can continue to work once they become an established couple! They are more than UST. There is so much more to their relationship than should be able to remain mostly intact once they are together. Only slight changes would be needed.

  8. I’ve always thought that at its simplest Bones is a re-telling of various fairy-tales. The handsome prince who comes along and wakes the princess from her emotion-less slumber. The handsome prince who falls in love with the unexpectedly complicated princess and loves her for who she is no matter what. (lots of handsome princes ha!)

    It’s even a bit of a Pride and Prejudice re-telling – man and woman meet, read each other wrong, wind each other up and battle against intense sexual attraction before realising they had been mistaken about the other person’s character and actually passionately loves them. In this way, Bones is following some well trodden paths in the romance genre. But that doesn’t take away from how well Bones has done it. I definitely think there is a layering to the characters that is unusual in a TV show – there’s so much so see and notice. It’s beautifully done, with unique characters and (although it may frustrate us shippers!) they rarely go down the ‘cheesy-romance’ route. There are so many clichés that have been hinted at on Bones, but never delivered – constantly making the audience want more than they get. (We should make a list of ‘movie-clichés’ that we’d love to see on Bones!)

    An example of this avoidance of cheese is the double bed in Double Trouble – we know it’s there, they even mention it, and we see how small it is, and then we see them in the morning when they’ve clearly been asleep – but they never cross the line into cheesy by showing us them dealing with sharing.

    At this point, it feels like any forward movement between them will have to be very slow and deliberate – which is great in terms of the weight of feelings and respect between them, but does somewhat take the passion out of it. We’ll have to see how it plays out!

    • Yeah, but, it sure would have been interesting to see just how wide awake Booth would have been lying next to Brennan and not being able to do anything except sleep. The expression on his face would have been priceless.

      • Haha, I’ve always thought about that when watching this episode! Thought it might be cheesy, I’d sure love to see Booth’s face during their night’s sleep. 🙂

  9. Booth and Brennan appeal to me because they aren’t the usual characters I see on TV. Their lives have unfolded like layers being peeled away over several seasons – which is rarely done…and although the characters themselves are archetypes in many ways (the basis of every character created)…their story is not. Bones has found a way to take archetypes and create a refreshingly different approach to what we normally see. And I agree with Botjes…the mold is broken by Booth being the heart person and Brennan being the brain person…and I love that twist. I also love that they’ve taken the time to explore these two more than any other show has done with their main characters, IMO, and have them teach each other the things they lack in themselves and connect in a deeper, more meaningful way than I’ve ever seen on TV. *Mold-breaking on aisle two*

    Most of all, I have to give credit to the two amazing actors who bring these characters to life…DB and ED. Their ability to convey so much emotion with their eyes and subtle facial expressions is also unique and gives them even more depth and complexity.

    I’m reminded of something Lorne said on Angel…and paraphrasing him…it’s not the individual notes in a song, those are just noise…but it’s the changing of the notes that make it music. I always liked that analogy. I’ve watched B&B change notes many times…which makes their story beautiful and fascinating…music to my ears. I appreciate that HH hasn’t taken the easy road…he created more complex characters that allow me to understand who they are…and the more I know, the more I care about them. It’s all about the journey…how they get from point A to point B…and that’s the music that sets them apart from the rest.

    We all expect B&B to be together in some fashion…and that’s typical…but what comes after is another chapter that has every possibility to, again, change those notes and keep us entertained and caring. When you start with complex characters like Booth and Brennan, you don’t end up with an average story…because they were never *average* to begin with.

    • I really like that you remembered that analogy about Lorne. I was watching that episode a couple of days ago and i really liked how he said it. And i also agree that that is one of the reasons that BONES stand out from the rest, BONES keeps changing the notes and all of that lead to the beautiful harmony. A lot of other shows that i know of get old after a while because they never quite change the note or because they played the wrong notes, but BONES isnt like that, it’s special in a good way

      • So true about how long it has taken to peel away the layers. It’s not normal for a show to have this much patience, and it’s so refreshing. We didn’t learn about Booth’s dad until season 4 or about B&B’s first case until season 5. I love that the writers didn’t try to tell it all at once! It’s so much more natural this way.

  10. I think in many respects, B&B are completely different than any other characters. I’m still not convinced they’re entirely unique, though. As separate characters, yes, especially Brennan (I can’t say I’ve ever seen a lead like her before), but I think their partnership is similar to others’. My greatest example is Tommy and Tuppence Beresford, a crime-solving (mostly disappearances, things like that) duo created by Agatha Christie. They start off as friends, become partners, and later marry. There are many other similarities, both in cases and the way they treat their partnership. I also know that it’s been a good 40 years since the last Tommy and Tuppence book was published, so it’s been a while since they have been in the limelight. They were the first married, partner crime-solvers.

    So are B&B breaking the mold? Maybe.

    • I love T&T! But since they always seemed to have been friends (didn’t they grow up together?) I kind of just hope that they are what B&B aspire to when they FINALLY get together.

      • Yes, I believe that they grew up together, or at least knew each other before WWI, met during the war, and then meet again in 1920 as The Secret Adversary starts.

        I agree… I hope B&B have T&T’s partnership when they finally are together.

    • Another early crime fighting married couple: Nick and Nora Charles of the Thin Man movies (the 30’s, I think). And, from TV, don’t forget Hart to Hart. There have been others, but these are ones that had staying power.

  11. I do think B&B’s overall relationship development has followed a somewhat predictable pattern (I wrote an entire post about that around Thanksgiving, I think), but there are also many ways I think it’s different than what we normally see on TV. I think the differences are especially apparent when you take a closer look (as opposed to trying to look at the big picture). It’s all in the details baby!

  12. What a great topic! As an English major, this is one discussion I can’t say no to.

    Do B&B fit certain archetypal molds? Yes. MJ pointed out a lot of them: the Protector with the world on his shoulders. The guy who puts on a tough front but is actually a softy. The Scientist who trusts in reason and hides her pain behind her intellect. The child of abandonment who’s scared to risk her heart. None of this is unheard of. One might argue that the writers challenge stereotype by making the male character the more sensitive and the female more rational, but even that’s been done before. Reversing stereotypes has become a bit stereotypical, if that’s all you do.

    But that’s not all the writers do, and it’s certainly not all the actors do. There’s still something different about Booth and Brennan, isn’t there? There’s a spark that makes them come alive. We all see it. I personally believe that a fully believable character can never be a mere stereotype. Stereotypes are two dimensional. Booth and Brennan are three dimensional. They’re believable and relatable. We get it. We understand why they do what they do because we feel that we know them. They’re written so well that they cease to be archetypes, even though they bear some archetypal features. In Booth and Brennan, traits we’ve seen before are combined in new ways. We’ve seen the sensitive, religious, intuitive guy on our tv screen before, but have we ever seen him ALSO be the manly-man soldier who wields his weapon with deadly accuracy, builds “barbeque machines,” loves sports, and often hesitates to talk about his feelings? Those traits seem almost contradictory, but they make sense in Booth because Booth is a fully-developed character. People are all a bit contradictory. Brennan has her own set of contradictions, like the fact that she’s socially awkward but skilled at going undercover (or the fact that she’s socially awkward but great at getting men to sleep with her). Brennan started as the archetypal “strong female”–intelligent, guarded, and skilled at self-defense–but now she breaks the mold. She’s still smart, but she’s not as guarded anymore. She still kicks butt but rarely feels the need to do so. She wants to be vulnerable with a man. And she insists she’s stronger NOW than she was then! (And I agree with her). As the strength vs. vulnerability speech indicates, Brennan challenges how we think of strong women on television.

    And yes, the plot isn’t entirely foreign–we recognize them as the “will they, won’t they” couple, and we see their early tension as a sign that they’ll inevitably become an item. But their journey hasn’t exactly been archetypal either. Lots of tv couples go straight from the arguing to the ‘making out against the wall’ phase. Booth and Brennan became solid friends first. They’ve developed trust and intimacy before even becoming a couple, which is refreshing. Their relationship is oddly healthy for television. They support each other and are comfortable with each other without losing that spark of sexual tension. That’s hard to pull off, and it’s rare to see.

    As a final note, I love what Jane said about telling a story with silences. That’s something Bones does better than just about every other show. That’s something these actors can claim as their own.

    • Amen to that!

    • “And she insists she’s stronger NOW than she was then!”
      But that is nothing new, that is actually the stereotype that women need a man in their life in order to be strong, that without a man they are weak.
      Brennan was weak, she met Booth and now she is strong, therefore Brennan needs a man, she actually needs to be saved by a man from her dungeon, the lab and metaphorical dungeon, her science and couldn’t do it on her own.
      That certainly goes against the current idea of strong women that can be strong without a man. And of course the man is strong even without a woman in is life, just like Sweets said in Killer in the crosshairs, Booth is strong, and nothing was mentioned that would suggest that he only is because he has Brennan in his life, except I guess that he supposedly stopped gambling because of her, but that was not a direct effect of Brennan helping him stop gambling, like Booth helps her with her heart. So we still get the woman needs a man’s direct help, and the man just needs to decide to become better/stronger for a woman (to be able to help/support her) but he doesn’t actually need her direct help to do so.
      Which can be summed up by, Brennan needs Booth (his strengths) and Booth needs Brennan to need him, but he doesn’t need HER (her strengths), he needs her needs (weaknesses), very cliché IMO. That was summed up in “the way you can help me is by letting me be a guy, fix things, it’s a guy thing, I feel one with the universe when I fix things”. Which can be translated by: “be weak and need me and let me help you so that I can feel like a man and strong” *sigh*
      I’m still hoping that this is part of his white knight syndrome and that at one point he will have to overcome it just like Brennan has to overcome her childhood issues, and that from there he will need Brennan’s personal strengths too, her direct help, not just her presence and needs/weaknesses. That they will need each other equally on a personal level.
      I’m only talking on a personal level, not a professional one, their professional relationship seems more equal, give and take, that’s why I liked the earlier shows better, and now dread the moment they get together.

      • I disagree with one of the points you made. Booth is the ‘catalyst’ that helped Brennan realize a weakness she had that she’s working to change, thereby becoming stronger. Booth is not the REASON she’s stronger. If Booth were taken out of her life, now that she’s recognized the weakness, she would still be a stronger (improved?) person by virtue of the changes she’s made herself.

        I think that’s a valid difference. Booth isn’t saving her from herself. Just by being himself, Booth has shown Brennan there’s a different way to look at life that’s equal to her own, but he’s not forcing her to make that choice.

        Let’s face it – as women we all know we are the stronger sex and a lot of the things we do when we’re in relationships with men is set up to make them feel like the stronger ones. Little things, like the plumbing. We’re batting eyelashes and cooing over what a big strong man he is for using his tools properly, but really, we all know that we could learn to fix a faucet just as easily.

        When Brennan does those stereotypical feminine things to fluff up Booth’s masculinity, I sort of laugh. Neither one of them need the fluffing, but both of them enjoy doing that sort of thing for the other one.

  13. From what i have read in the comments i think it can be interpreted both ways. You can say it was the cliche with the hero and the girl but at the same time as you use that cliche you can point out slight differences from the original. So basically what I am trying to say is that maybe Hart just wanted a different way to look at the cliche story of a boy and a girl who fall in love. He made it different and beautiful in his own way and just wanted to tell his own story, just along those lines. I think that is perfect because he has led us to this great journey that i will be sad when it ends. So to answer you question, i think BONES is a story that breaks the mold but at the same time stays within the lines…if that makes sense. Because there haven’t been stories told quite this way but within the same context in a way.

  14. Great questions; great responses! Also, using the word “archetype” in reference to Bones makes me a little more excited than is probably normal. 🙂

    I’ve heard a lot of the same kind of talk in regards to Castle, and I really just don’t get where those people (“those people” sounds super rude, but I don’t mean it like that!) are coming from. I mean, okay, I get that yeah, Booth and Brennan have been taking their sweet time getting together—but really, emphasis on “sweet!”

    Breaking the mold…as far as pure story–the story as a whole–is concerned, it seems to me that basically any love story would have some degree of archetypal undertones in it. Love seems to be age-old and brand new all at once, circumstances notwithstanding. Perhaps part of the reason we feel SO strongly about Booth and Brennan being together in the end is that we can sense these archetypal “love” elements, whatever they are, in the story. It’s just supposed to end that way! we insist–but why? Maybe because we know this story already on some level.

    But in a certain sense, I do think the story of Booth and Brennan is breaking the mold. First of all, within the given medium, I think Bones is absolutely going where no show has quite gone before. The amount of character development—and realistic development at that!—is astounding for a network television show, as far as I can tell. And the way that character development is worked into the Booth-and-Brennan love story (yes, that’s right, I called it a love story—not UST, not will they/won’t they, but a love story!) so well is definitely unique to Bones in my opinion. It’s amazing to me that the answers to “Why should these two people be together?” are so wrapped up in who they are as characters (as believable people, really!). That’s phenomenally done work, as far as I’m concerned.

    But also, I think there’s more to our story than the standard Boy-meets-girl plot. I just love that the two of them have kind of…stuttered along. One of them is ready—oh, wait, the other can’t. Then she’s finally ready, and—wait a minute, he can’t do it. I’ve been thinking a lot about the whole on-the-count-of-three thing, and the banter about who won the race to the coffee cart—he “humped the gun” (haha!) because he was “mentally and physically prepared” before she was, and she was late, as he says. But what makes the difference from other stories is that they both ran! Does that make sense? What I mean is, really, they’ve wanted each other from the get-go. There haven’t ever been any misunderstanding, Rom-Com hijinks between them. What’s kept them apart all this time has really been fear. Fear of losing control over personal happiness. Fear of rejection. Fear of abandonment. Fear of being alone 30, or 40, or 50 years down the road. They’ve been running this race, as it were, sometimes tripping, sometimes sprinting, sometimes falling, sometimes even just plain stopping! Each one’s pace has been inconsistent, their strides almost never matching. But the point is that they’ve been running, in the same direction—they always have. Has the light turned on? Have my ramblings even –ish come together? Coherent or no, that’s where the mold breaks in my opinion.

    And maybe that’s where the boy-gets-partner thing comes in. Boy gets partner, girl gets partner. They’re equals, and they’re there for one another, no matter what. So many shows seem to go the chemistry-only route, where the only real thing we see between the couple is chemistry, and then they get together, and woohoo, bully for them—they’re together, but what does it mean? With Booth and Brennan their together—their partnership—will be so much more than what’s normally portrayed. It already is!

    Disjointed and a little crazy as usual, but there it is, from my perspective!

    • YES to everything you just wrote. 100%.

      • Same to everything YOU wrote just a bit before too! Maybe English majors just get each other a little extra, haha. GREAT point with “They’re written so well that they cease to be archetypes”–so true.

  15. I think they’re both. They’re archetypes in terms of general characterization and genre, in that the story is following most of the conventions of the romance genre pretty closely.

    Where I think they’re mold breakers is on TV, in the amount of time the show’s taken to develop their relationship. Why it works for me, really, is that the sexual attraction is there, their relationship is so much more – and that’s something we wouldn’t have, btw, if it hadn’t taken six years to get here.

    I honestly can’t think of another show that went to the effort Bones has gone to to show more than just the sex. At most, they tend to rely on shorthand, where we see bits and pieces that tell us there’s more than just sex between them. With Booth and Brennan, we get something in almost every single episode that shows the connection between them, that it’s more than just physical. And that’s beyond rare, at least as far as I can see.

    • I agree 100 percent. I came here to say pretty much this same thing. You said it much more eloquently than I can right now. 😉

  16. If Booth and Brennan weren’t mold breakers, we wouldn’t be crazily analyzing them on wondrous sites like this 🙂

    Their depth and history and connection makes them different, even though their story, is rather typical. My hubby guessed at the end of S5 that Booth would hook up with someone else simply because it was ‘his turn’. He hasn’t seen S6 yet (waiting for the DVD) but knows that ‘the floozy has left the building’ simply because of the change in me…

    • Haha, good point about the discussions we have here! How many television shows have websites devoted to literary discussions about them? Mmm…maybe more than I think, but I can’t imagine even having material enough to literarily analyze, say, Grey’s Anatomy or something–no offense to the show or its fans, haha. But really–is there an alternate universe version of this with some other show, with some other fans? You’re so right–this blog alone is a testament to the breaking-the-mold-ness of Bones–thanks for putting it out here, Sarah!

      • Thanks 🙂

        I’m guessing I’m not the only one whose nerdy, yet frustrated, heart skipped a beat when she found this site: doing my favourite thing (analysing text) on my favourite text (yes, a TV show, not artsy film or novel) with like minded (read intelligent, positive, not just here to whinge) people (read: people who are a bit more mature and don’t just LUV BOOF 4EVA COZ HIS HOT).

        Is this place for real?!

  17. Hmmmm…..i think pre S6 they were kind of breaking the mold. It was new…i for one have never watched a more fascinating relationship unfold. Booth and Brennan as characters are unlike any i’ve watched before so i think initially the potential the relatioship had was very different. The combination of their professional partnership, their developing friendship and their barely acknowledged attraction to one another had the makings for something epic!

    Now…as much as i’ve loved S6 and as much as i loved Hannah her involvement did turn it from a ‘mold breaker’ to something we’ve all seen before. The story itself was very average. The one party rejects the other so the rejected party finds themselves a hot blonde (brunette, redhead…hair colour is flexible!) to distract themselves with is very overdone. That was my only real complaint in the end with Hannahs involvement. Loved her but the SL itself was distinctly average.

    But what can you do? LOL

    • I tend to agree…it was rather standard and predictable. Interestingly though, I find that what happened in Blizzard breaks the mold. It staggered me that they would have such an honest, open, future focused discussion. These two that have been so used to denial. That they have set up this…almost promise…of eventually so openly, blows me away and was so not what I expected.

      It makes me rather excited (to say the least) to watch their dynamic and interaction for the rest of the season.

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