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The Spark in the Park: Post Episode Discussion

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The comments are open—what did you think of this episode!

 

And we’ve got a while until the next episode (no spoilers!) so make it count! 🙂

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85 thoughts on “The Spark in the Park: Post Episode Discussion

  1. This episode really touched me. Who can NOW still say that Brennan is cold and unfeeling?!! Seriously. I was almost in tears over the ending.

    I thought her identifying with the father and her empathy for him was very touching.

    Booth encouraging Brennan to go and talk to him was touching.

    Touching episode!

    Love Booth in short sleeve tshirts!

    Well, what can I say!! I always love the last B&B scene!!!

    Love B&B’ holding hands.
    http://wellsbones.tumblr.com/post/69225155406/chtyaqi-nicole-bones-wel l-what-can-i-say-

    Click on pics for larger 🙂

    No more new episodes until January 10th!! 😦 Time to catch up on rewatching season 8.

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  2. Brennan was adorable! I always love the episodes that highlight Brennan’s empathy which has been present really since the beginning of the show like Boy in the bush or Goop in girl. ED was so great in this episode! Anyone else think she looked absolutely stunning in the last BB scene? That last BB scene was really sweet. Although I think Booth could have been a little nicer in the episode–he came across as very grouchy right from the first scene with Cam and then seemed to get worse.

    Richard Schiff as the father was fantastic. That last scene between the father and Brennan was beautiful and so moving. Loved the idea that he was paying tribute to his daughter’s life with physics. How do they come up with this stuff?

    Not sure about the Cam story.. I think I would have pushed for the aggravated identity theft after that confrontation with the thief;-) She still could have decided not to be bitter over it but the I think person should be charged for the appropriate crime. The “friend” really did go after Cam because she thought Cam had it easy and was mad that Cam just didn’t give her money. Aristoo is coming off as a little too perfect for me to really get into his character.

    I am so sad that the next episode is so far away:(

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  3. Let me first say I’ve been reading this blog for a few weeks now and really like it. This is my first time commenting though.

    That being said I like the episode thought it was really great at first I didn’t get why Booth was acting so harsh to the father. I think it was because when he told the man that his daughter was dead instead of the man stopping he continue to keep on working to Booth it seem cold but for Brennan she understood him why. Booth is usually good at relating to others but in this case he just couldn’t in away that Brennan could. Brennan made a very good point telling him that people grieve in their own way that others wouldn’t understand.

    I know I do, when my uncle died a couple years ago I went about doing whatever it was I was doing at the time instead of breaking down and crying. It actually took me a few days to actually break down and when it happen I was at school I finally let go of my strength and felt the lost to anyone I would come off as being unfeeling. When in reality I was feeling so much that I didn’t/couldn’t release the pain and sadness inside of me.

    Booth’s behavior kinda of remind me of Brennan’s behavior in the episode from season 6 ‘The Signs in the Silence’ to some people she came off harsh and unfeeling it wasn’t that Brennan couldn’t relate to what the girl went through it was that she related so much to the abuse the girl had endure. Sometime we relate other times we don’t that it comes off harsh and unfeeling to the people around us. That’s how I see it Booth couldn’t relate to why the father just couldn’t to work after being told of his daughter’s death I’m not excusing Booth’s behavior just merely explaining it.

    Then again my interpretation of Booth’s behavior could be wrong and he was just being a jerk but I really don’t think so.

  4. Forgot to add my thoughts about Cam, I understand what Arastoo was saying but I think that Cam deserve justice for what her so call “friend” put her through. Having your identity stolen isn’t easy to get back let alone recover from even when you do stop being anger and sometimes you never fully recover from it at all.

    • I think that Arastoo was rushing Cam and failing to account for the fact that she needed time to go through “the five stages of grief”, I don’t off hand remember what they are to list them here, but she legitimately needed perhaps several more weeks to work her way through all the anger and hurt that this situation caused.

      • I agree, Arastoo should have given her time and been understanding about why even now with her so call “friend” being locked up that she was still mad. She had her identity stolen and her trust broken, you don’t move pass that quickly or easily but with a lot of time and understanding that it might take weeks or even months or sometimes years to cope and be comfortable in her skin again. I like Arastoo but on this subject he was wrong and should have been supportive of her instead of telling her to move pass her anger and hurt.

      • You’ve made an interesting point with the five stages of grief. Now I even more so am NOT happy with Arastoo. I like Cam and while they may look good together, Arastoo is clearly not right for her in my mind. He doesn’t understand her and doesn’t allow her go through stuff at her own pace. I’m afraid that in a long run they will split up (which I won’t be crying over to be honest…)

  5. I agree, Amanda. Plus they were thinking it was a child abuse murder in the beginning.

  6. Lovely! So very, very lovely. One of the absolute best in the past two seasons, in my opinion. The way Emily and the guest star played it too, was a wonder to watch. Booth reaction was completely in character as well, with his history of abuse and his job. It really touched something in my heart.
    Also, I liked how they showed Hodgins and Angela working as such a seamless team on the card.
    The mathematician though- I wonder if they’re ever going to bring that man back. I’d really love it if they did. Maybe show a continuing relationship between he and Brennan. I think they could both do with new friend.
    This one is going down in my all time favorites for sure.

  7. I have so many problems with the type of episode structure where one of the main characters is set up to be the villain (Booth) and the other (Brennan) to be the hero.

    Not only that but tearing down one key characteristic of Booth’s , his understanding of human nature , just to highlight Brennan’s evolution in a subplot.

    Does anyone for a hot minute think that Booth doesn’t understand grief or how grief affects people differently? That he hasn’t dealt with all walks of life and knows when people are in denial or need time to react? He has been dealing with this for years. Years before he met Brennan. He certainly doesn’t need to be shamed or undermined by his wife on this matter. And for what? We already know Brennan can relate to people.

    Then we have Booth, the victim of child abuse himself by his own father, who was going by the wrong information given to him by his wife, the squints and Sweets that this kid was a victim of child abuse and he was confronting the father on this, the father who is a viable suspect at this point, who shows no emotion, no respect to Booth as an FBI Agent, insults him: Booth was doing his job and somehow he’s in the wrong in Brennan’s eyes and a lot of fans too. WTF!!!!!

    Brennan doesn’t know this Doctor from Adam but all of sudden she has more understanding and compassion to a stranger than her own husband. Instead of taking a minute and trying to see where Booth is coming from how the case may be affecting him, she has the Doctors back, a stranger and someone she has no evidence on whether he is innocent or not . But just because he is a man of science that means he gets the benefit of the doubt . Even in the interrogation room she was out of line taking Doctor side over Booth’s, who at this point she didn’t know if he was the murderer or not but that doesn’t matter just undermine Booth at his job, in his domain. WTF!!! A previous time when she thought men of science couldn’t be capable of murder was in Season 3. And she was wrong. They did commit murder. But lets not use reason or logic enter this episode.

    Then at the end of the episode lets just ram it home even more that Booth is in the wrong and Brennan is right by having Booth say sorry and give a lame excuse to why he is upset. And not only that make Brennan be petty and actually take pleasure in knowing she was right and Booth was the big bad FBI Agent just doing his job. And then instead of having Brennan discuss what the root of the problem was with her and Booth’s approach to this case as a team, lets just have Brennan be more concerned with running of to make sure that doctor she hardly knows is alright. GEEESH!!

    This episode was more concerned with making sure that Brennan connected with a guest star than her actual husband…. If I didn’t know any better and except for the token B&B near end scene, I would of thought Brennan and Booth could hardly stand each other. And it wasn’t just big bad Booth being snippy, it was on Brennan too.

    • I agree with most of the above but was uncomfortable with Booth’s constant characterization of the Doctor (the fabulous Richard Schiff) as a “freakazoid”. It was demeaning to Brennan also because he grouped her with the Doctor. Both Booth and Brennan in this episode felt very heavy handed and extreme to me.

    • I agree with some of what you said. The writers tend to go to extreme sometimes in the characterizations. They usually do it to Brennan for example in the “dude in the dam” where they had Brennan be tactless in every single interaction to prove a point– there really was no need to have her tell Wendell “you belong to me” or insult Angela’s dress. Even here Booth seemed to start off in a bad mood or something with the way he was impatient with Cam and then at the crime scene he acted very annoyed right from the get go. I think they could have told the same story without those scenes and it would have felt more balanced. Plus Brennan has had the ability to relate to people since S1. Women in the garden she sees how scared the illegal immigrant is and has to stand up to Booth trying to intimidate her. There has been an episode every single season where Brennan has been able to connect with victim. The only thing she has really learned is that she can see her coping mechanisms for what they were.

      About your criticism of Brennan saying that men of logic and reason can’t commit murder. I think both Booth and Brennan are very defensive of people who are like them. Brennan has always defended men of science or foster kids and Booth always gets overly involved with murders of soldiers or cops. He can’t fathom a cop or soldier going bad and takes it very personally (e.g.. soldier in the grave, blood in the stones, or even the jacob broadsky episodes). I think in this case though the point was that the behaviour of the father that was causing Booth to suspect him moreso than in any other circumstance and that same behaviour Brennan understood because she could identify with it. The only thing Booth did wrong was not giving the guy the same benefit of the doubt he would’ve to anyone else primarily because he didn’t understand his coping mechanisms and *that* felt a bit judgemental of Booth.

      We will probably disagree but I do think Booth could have been more tactful with the father and Brennan. Not that he couldn’t have been suspicious of the guy but at least deal with him somewhat respectfully. In the ghost in the machine– when it turned out that he had to put the boy’s father on the suspect list, he had a difficult time with that too but he never took it out on the father (it could have hit Booth’s child abuse button but it didn’t). The child abuse thing should have gone way down on the radar once they found out that Amanda was a gymnast and that she clearly had injuries that occurred in training. So at that point Booth should have been a bit more objective because it seemed the main thing that kept him thinking the father was the killer was the father’s apparent coldness which I don’t think was all that reasonable. Even if Amanda went to her father’s work it doesn’t mean she *had* to have met her father there. Maybe she was going to tell him about quitting and then changed her mind half way and left before seeing him. That was just as much circumstantial evidence as the ghost in the machine case where Booth felt bad for even questioning the father. Even at the end when he knew the father wasn’t the killer and Brennan had been telling him all along that this was the father’s way with dealing with pain he was still calling him a “freakazoid”? I thought there Booth could have been a bit more sensitive. Joke or not the guy is going through a major life crisis possibly losing the will to live which in some way Booth contributed to by taking him out of his work and making him feel like an awful parent.

      But to be honest this snappish side to Booth has always been present from the beginning. Despite being the heart guy he isn’t always the most sensitive and tends to lash out if he is uncomfortable and in some way that is his way of dealing with pain or difficult situations. To be honest though I like him more when he comes across as imperfect. It gives him more depth. Unlike Aristoo who came across very preachy to me and I don’t find that attractive. At least here you can see Booth isn’t perfect and that he has his own insecurities he was battling with and that’s okay. Lets face it occasionally he is narrow minded. He has a set view of the way things are supposed to be so it’s nice when he gets to see things from a different point of view.

      “I am stating an opinion, not a fact”. 😉

      • Everything you said! I agree with everything you said!

      • IMO, the victim’s father was an awful parent. He loved his daughter, but the poor kid was left to cope with the grief of losing her mother on her own. She had to assume responsibility for him instead of the other way around. She ended up getting involved with drugs and a bad crowd while trying to cope with that grief on her own, all of which dad was as oblivious to as he was to her dropping off his dinner. Brennan had compassion for his grief at his child’s death and Booth was reacting with horror at the guy as parent when this child was still alive.

      • So that’s a good point Isolde but Booth was mad at the father right from the first interaction. In the car after Booth knows that Amanda was a gymnast (which could account for her injuries) he calls him “nuts” and his reactions “psycho”because all he wants to do is math. I thought that was a bit over the top but I understand because the father called him narrow minded too. At that point there is no inkling to what kind of interaction the father and daughter had with each other, Booth only finds that out much later.

        (Sorry, I accidentally posted under the wrong section earlier but just wanted to make sure it was in the correct section)

    • Oh my, you took the words out of my mouth, no need for me to reiterate but I will say, I dont know what I’m watching anymore, Booth the hard nosed cop with no heart and then we have robobren back who can only connect with scientists she doesnt even know over the man she has for 9 years. This reminds me a bit of the Jared ep, shiny baubles again. To make things even worse, destoy Cam in the process, now she punches a handcuffed suspect and lies her way into a jail interrogation unit? Who’s the bad guys here? The final straw was the writers taking away our final B & B scene for a guest star, tell me the last time that has happened. How fast can I forget this ep? Already off my dvr.

    • I’m sorry to say this because I typically go out of my way not to dislike an episode, but I totally agree with what you wrote here. I felt that the script made a point about Brennan’s ability to connect with Aspberger-type personalities completely at Booth’s expense, by turning him into an unreasonable ass. If the behavior he exhibited throughout this entire episode was the usual for him during interrogations, he’d been kicked out of the FBI a long time ago-it was extremely unprofessional given how obvious it was that the dad wasn’t the killer, not to mention borderline disrespectful towards his wife. I kept hoping they would explain his knee-jerk animosity at some point, but it just never happened. This story pattern is very similar to how they had the characters react when Brennan didn’t take Booth to the ultrasound-made her into the bad guy so they could show a lesson about her ‘learning’ empathy at the end, as if she’d never had any. Needless to say, I didn’t care for that episode either.

      While the final scene between them was sweet (Emily and David can sell love like no one else, no matter what’s written on the page), it didn’t redeem the rest of the story as far as I’m concerned. The treatment of the subject was way too heavy-handed for me all around-I like my messages to be delivered more subtly. Case in point: Brennan acts compassionately towards the professor, yet dismisses the poor stressed girl who turned out to be the killer as ‘crazy’ despite the unbelievable amount of pressure she was under. Where’s Brennan’s concern and her empathy there?

      I’m also not sure what Sweets’ role was in the whole thing. I’m not even sure what point he was trying to make at the diner. Overall, one of those episodes that leaves me scratching my head, and causes me to be more than a little bit uneasy about B/B and their relationship-kind of like the honeymoon one. I wish we’d ended on a happier note and didn’t have to wait another five weeks for the next one.

      • You know I felt Booth came across as very grouchy on first watch but after watching the episode again, I think they did explain his knee jerk animosity… He initially thought RS was a child abuser, then had a “cold” reaction to hearing of his daughter’s death. Then just as he found out that her injuries were accountable by sport the father then insults him calling him narrow minded. Booth get’s very testy when people insult him and here he was already predisposed to viewing him badly. Then he finds out that the father may have lied about the last time he saw his daughter. So there was enough fodder there to explain Booth’s suspicions but I agree that his reactions were slightly over the top. But it wasn’t too far out of Booth’s character. He has always had a problem with “eggheads” since the beginning of the show. Brennan is a special case for him and he wasn’t identifying Brennan with the father the way Brennan was.

        Brennan dismissing the girl felt very natural to me. At that point the girl had confessed to murdering her friend without a good cause and didn’t even feel remorseful about it. I didn’t expect either Booth or Brennan to show any empathy for her. Sure that girl was under ridiculous amounts of stress but Amanda was under far more and yet she still decided to stick it out.

        If you watch the BB scene again you might be more touched by it the second time around. I thought it was truly beautiful and one of the better end scenes we have had. Finally it was a case of BB talking seriously about an important topic and sharing a nice look and very romantic kisses. They felt very connected which goes to show that even after a disagreement they are still strong. Plus that end scene with RS and Brennan was just wow.

        Personally it was a fantastic fall finale.

    • So that’s a good point Isolde but Booth was mad at the father right from the first interaction. In the car after Booth knows that Amanda was a gymnast (which could account for her injuries) he calls him “nuts” and his reactions “psycho”because all he wants to do is math. At that point there is no inkling to what kind of interaction the father and daughter had with each other, Booth only finds that out much later.

      • Booth always starts with with what his gut says about someone. And from his first interaction it wasn’t saying something good about the guy. It’s just that the something unlikable about the guy wasn’t that he was the killer.

      • To be honest I don’t think that was fair of Booth then to be mean just because his “gut” was telling him he was a bad person. So this is all speculation on my behalf but I don’t think the father was bad more just unable to cope with reality. He clearly loved his daughter but I think he was coping his wife’s death by burying himself in his work. The daughter was clearly the stronger one. But I think we are meant to believe that he was a decent father enough that when Amanda came by to drop him dinner something in that must have changed her mind to continue with her sport. I think Amanda knew she needed to stay strong for both her and her father. If she really felt abandoned or hurt by her father wouldn’t she have tried to continue her rebellion to get his attention the way her friend Rachael did?

        Maybe I just liked Richard Schiff’s character too much to be truly convinced he was a “bad” parent. I think he had his own unique way of loving his daughter but that didn’t mean that his daughter didn’t understand that. I think that last scene was meant to show that he wasn’t a bad father despite his and Booth’s beliefs just different. When he talks about carrying his daughter on his shoulder, I just felt the daughter must have known on some level that she was loved. All my opinion;)

      • I’m fine with him being rough with someone he had reason to believe killed his own child. It could have just as easily been guilt or remorse over murdering her that he was using work to cope with and not grief. But that’s just me.

      • The point to me was that Booth was being rough on him based on a preconceived set of notions that because the father wasn’t acting the way he *should* upon learning of the death of his daughter. To be fair to Booth that actually is his job to determine if people are acting suspicious or not, I just thought he was a little harsher than usual despite Brennan telling him that there may be a reason for the fathers “abnormal” behaviour. Once he found out that Amanda was a gymnast and that most likely her injuries were related to her sport he could have been a bit more sensitive but still kept his suspicions. I don’t buy that they still thought that he could be a physical child abuser– I don’t think you could a number 1 ranked gymnast and be regularly beaten up. It would be very hard to stay number 1 if you are battling physical injuries.

        The thing I didn’t like were the repeated comments of “nuts”, “psycho”, “freakazoid” especially when Brennan is telling him that he is like her in a lot of ways. After knowing RS wasn’t the killer the comment Booth made about it being “easier to get rid of his daughter than be bothered by her” comes across as very harsh. What if the guy tried to go kill himself after what Booth said? Brennan can be very tactless but so can Booth in many ways. He can be quite judgemental and narrow minded if he thinks something is unconventional for example the way he reacted to the pony play people or his reactions to the geniuses in science in the physicist.

        I loved the episode and I think it was okay for Booth to learn something once in a while too. I don’t think Booth was entirely out of line either. It takes me back to the original days of their partnership where they were both learning from each other.

      • Again, totally just me, but what I see is all the evidence that Booth had going into that interview indicated she had been killed by someone that loved her even if they also abused her. The father’s answers narrowed the suspect pool for that – the mother was dead, he couldn’t provide Booth with alternate suspects. Instead he insults Booth for being narrow minded because he dared to assume the kid went to school instead of trying to help find who did kill her instead of him. He’s an uncooperative witness, not just someone burying himself in his work because he’s upset about something. Although the fact that she was a gymnast gave an alternate explanation for the injuries it didn’t completely eliminate the possibility of abuse.

        Brennan doesn’t want it to be the father because he’s like her. She wasn’t being his partner there. She wasn’t being professional. She had emotional outbursts instead of giving him something to work with that would allow him to eliminate the guy as a suspect. She wants her husband instead of her professional partner during most of this episode and as long as they are working this case he can’t give that to her.

        Booth starts the episode with Cam, knowing that she probably is going to do something driven by emotion and unprofessional that he’s going to have to explain away to a defendant’s lawyer or somebody upstairs. And she does. Next he moves onto the case and his partner starts behaving unprofessionally.

        Brennan isn’t working the evidence as thoroughly as she usually does. She should have caught the difference in hand strength the first go round. Was she less thorough because she was afraid she might find evidence that someone she didn’t want to be the murderer was the killer? She undermines Booth in front of the suspect instead of waiting until they are alone to make her arguments.

        I don’t find it surprising that Booth is using the terminology he is using or is frustrated with Cam or Brennan. The guy had to be wondering if it is a full moon or he woke up in an alternate universe.

        I totally get where Brennan and Cam are coming from and why they behaved the way they did. But I also totally get where Booth is coming from as well and why he does what it does. Again, JMO.

      • So this episode is great because it leaves loads of room for discussion. I get where you are coming from and personally I *see* where Booth is coming from as well but that doesn’t mean I think he was in the *right* (if there ever is such a thing) :-). I don’t think Booth was in the wrong either but that doesn’t mean I had to like what he did. Also I don’t think he was acting entirely professional either. Part of being professional is withholding judgement until all the facts are in. I don’t mind when he says stuff to suspects to get a rise out of them in hopes that they confess but here Booth was reacting personally, just as Brennan was, to Dr Waters’ behaviour as a father. Booth was “angry” with the father’s reactions and his behaviours and Booth’s own biases were playing a heavy role.

        I defend the above with what the show is leading me to believe by having Booth categorically state at the end that he was wrong because he didn’t understand the guy and actually thought he was the murderer. Booth goes by his gut all the time and that doesn’t make him unprofessional so I don’t think in this case Brennan going by her gut is unprofessional. Like Brennan says she is excellent at pattern recognition and here she was able to see something Booth wasn’t.

        By the time they had got to the interrogation room, I think they had had a clearly viable alternative to the child abuse story since the fibula fracture was accounted for. So then the next sequence I don’t think Booth had anymore of a reason to suspect the guy than the father in “ghost in the machine”. But there he clearly demonstrated tact and recognized that the father was hurt by his questions, here Booth wasn’t able to see that but Brennan was.

        Just because Brennan wasn’t agreeing with Booth’s opinions doesn’t mean she wasn’t being his partner or professional. In Partner’s in Divorce, Booth takes the couples side against Brennan “forgive my partner she is just being cynical” but I don’t think that was being unprofessional. So here I feel the same way here. To me Brennan’s behaviour was more her trying to explain this guy to Booth because she saw what his reactions were and realized that Booth wasn’t seeing what she was. Booth has comforted suspects before in interrogation. He hugged the cop’s wife in Blood from the stones because he thought her reactions were genuine even though she turned out to be the killer. But that’s because her reactions were more in line with what he expected of a family member. In the last episode he also used his personal experience with Brennan for the Brennan doppelgänger to lower his suspicions of her which is basically what I see Brennan doing here.

        Also have to say there are many explanations as why her father wouldn’t have remembered his daughter being there that night. Booth was given one but just didn’t want to believe it. Booth went in with this guy is guilty mindset and wasn’t keeping an open mind. Also he was still calling him a “freakazoid” at then end and Brennan had to tell him you are still doing it. So it goes to show me that there was more to Booth’s animosity than purely RS’s viability as a suspect. Booth just didn’t like him but that’s okay I did understand how he arrived there so his actions were justified.

        I think this episode overall was excellent because it had lots of shades of grey and goes to show just how much each person’s personal biases and experiences lead to our perceptions. I think same goes for interpretation of episodes like this. The more I think about this episode the more I like it.

      • I’m not sure what lesson Booth was supposed to have learned here. That people process grief differently? Even in this episode Brennan admits that’s a concept he understands. I agree he didn’t like the guy. I don’t think he had any reason to. He was a suspect in the death of his daughter, an absentee father, uncooperative in solving his daughter’s murder and condescendingly insulting to Booth. I didn’t like the guy. But none of that impacted how Booth conducted his investigation. He didn’t slap the guy in handcuffs and drag him off to jail just because he didn’t like him. He followed all the leads, he interviewed all possible suspects. He respected the evidence. So no lesson there, IMO.

        Was the original suspect the actual killer? No but that’s hardly the first time the first person either one of them suspected was the actual killer.

        Will Booth never snark back at condescending rude people geniuses or not? (And why in the Bones world do people of great intellect always seem to be condescending and rude anyway? That’s such a manufactured stereotype!) I’d be surprised if that is the case.

        Is he glad to give her the win that the person she so wanted to be not guilty was in fact not guilty. Yes, in large part because I think he knew how crushed she would have been if the guy had killed his daughter. He’s husband Booth here and he can give her what FBI Booth couldn’t and I think he’s glad to do so. But I don’t really see this as a change of character.

        I do think it was a great episode in that it let us see another side of Brennan in a way that we don’t usually get to do so. RS’s character was wonderfully complex in that there were reasons to both feel sympathy for him and dislike him, not only for Brennan and Booth, but also for the audience. But ultimately I think this episode was a character exploration of Brennan and Booth was just along for the ride.

      • Booth may have taught Brennan a lot of stuff about human emotion but he doesn’t necessarily apply it to his own life effectively sometimes. I think this was one of those examples. Booth knows people process things differently but he needed to put aside his own prejudices to see it in this case. Sorry but the way Booth was talking about him in the car scene after they had an alternate explanation to the abuse was a very insensitive way to talk about someone who had lost their daughter. There was no solid reason to think he was a bad father at that point. Booth was upset that RS was focussing on his math instead of crying over his daughter. I understand where Booth is coming from because I might have the same bias especially if someone insulted me but after Brennan was pointing out that that might have been his coping strategy he could have backed off on the insults. Even after he found out the guy wasn’t the killer as Brennan said “he was still doing it”. We have seen Booth keep someone on the suspect list and still be respectful about it. So I think what Booth got here was a reminder that people aren’t necessarily what they seem. I look at my own life– there are times when I should have applied a personal philosophy to a situation but didn’t due to some sort of bias and that only became apparent on hindsight. Booth has been known to be narrow minded and has very set views on how things should appear and in this case it clashed with his prior knowledge that people react to things differently.

        I think I am biased because I read a spoiler about this episode earlier in which SN talked about Booth coming to see logic and reason differently so that’s what I think was intended. I do think this was a bit of “lesson” for Booth. If it was meant for Booth to just be on for Brennan’s ride then I don’t think it would have been presented as harshly as it was given the way people have reacted. I am also biased because I liked RS’s character 😉

      • I don’t think the first car scene was really about the victim’s father but more about Booth’s bewilderment over what just happened. He’s kind of awkwardly flailing about. Really from that first scene between the three of them, Brennan becomes the victim’s father’s partner throughout the investigation. I don’t think Booth really understands what happened there, or during the conversation in the diner with Sweets or later in the interrogation room. And at the end I didn’t feel he was particularly driven to understand it. He was content to write it off to a language he doesn’t speak.

        I really think the two most powerful scenes here in terms of seeing RS’s character differently are when Brennan sees that he has given up his work and argues for him going back to it and the one at the end where he documents his daughter’s life on the chalkboard. These two scenes are compelling. That final scene in particular. Far more so than Brennan’s disjointed protestations to Booth.

        And yet Booth doesn’t observe the two most eloquent arguments for seeing reason, logic and RS’s character differently. The audience and Brennan are working with insight into RS’s character that the writer never provides for Booth. If this was meant to provide character growth for Booth or for Booth to see RS’s character differently at the end of the episode than he did at the beginning, then I think that is a about as major a fail on the part of the writer as you can get. But then I have also found that what SN says we will get in an episode and what we actually do get are often two different things. From my experience anyway.

      • We definitely see this differently but I don’t think Brennan would have been crushed to see the father turn out to be the murderer. To me, Brennan was identifying more with the actual grieving process rather than the father in of himself. She was seeing how she would react to Booth and then Christine’s death. For a long time Brennan didn’t let anyone too close to her incase she lost them. Now she was seeing someone like herself face the reality of her biggest fear. It was reminding Brennan how difficult it would be to cope and how work would be her only refuge. That’s huge self realization for her in seeing her defence mechanisms for what they are. She was seeing that pattern in the Father and Booth wasn’t seeing that.

        But if it turned out the father was the killer, I don’t think she would identify with that. She would never consider hurting Booth or Christine and it would automatically stop any identification with the father. She was empathizing with the guy because he was living her worst fear. But if he killed his daughter I think it would stop her own feelings of terror of being unable to cope after losing her family. I guess I don’t think her fear in the episode was that if guy turns out to be a killer then what does it say about me but rather if something happened to Booth and Christine would I be able to survive it? Does that makes sense?

        Thanks for bringing this point up.. I hadn’t considered it before which is why I didn’t understand your husband!Booth vs partner!Booth analogy. To be honest I didn’t really see Booth “getting” that she was identifying with the father more because I think he himself saw the differences.

      • I’d have jumped into this wonderful debate but I think I’m a bit too late and bountypeaches has said most I’d have. But Isolde, thanks for your insightful points. It definitely helped me appreciate this episode more 🙂

      • Isolde.. I think we will just have to agree to disagree 😉 I watched the initial meeting, the car and the diner scene again and just see things very differently.

        I just didn’t see Brennan’s as not coming across as Booth’s partner but I saw it in reverse that Booth wasn’t listening to what Brennan was saying. I think we can agree that the father and Booth just didn’t like each other off the bat and that was mostly started by Booth in my opinion. Booth walked in with the assumption of a child abuse and saw his reaction to hearing about the death, it confirmed something in Booth’s mind and Booth treated him with disdain. Brennan was observing more objectively– look at the way she watches him. Brennan told the father he could continue what he was doing and Booth just disregarded what Brennan had said and insisted that the father talk to them immediately. I am sorry if Brennan told him he could finish his work then Booth should have respected Brennan enough to not contradict her. But Booth was all “we are doing this my way”. As their conversation progresses I can see why the father would feel the need to insult Booth just I can also see why Booth reacted the way he did.

        Even the car scene starts with Booth saying that guy is “nuts” and his reactions are “psycho”. He knows at this point there is a viable explanation to child abuse but he took a very emotional response to the guy. Its all very judgemental of Booth– that was what Booth needed to see about what he was doing and by the end he did. So even in the diner scene I don’t see Booth being objective and trying to focus on the case because of the way he was shutting Sweet’s down if Sweet’s started agreeing with Brennan. That was what I had a problem with. Booth wasn’t listening to all angles. If Sweet’s agreed with him fine and if not then “who asked him”. He felt very dismissive of Brennan’s “gut”. If Booth was exposed to the scene with Brennan and RS, then I don’t think they could have kept up Booth’s stance without him looking very bad indeed. They needed to create some sort of conflict without Booth coming across as the definitive bad guy.

        There is a juxtaposition there with Booth writing the word daughter up on the board and the father writing out the daughter’s life story on the board with physics equations. I wonder if that was the same story he was writing initially when Brennan didn’t recognize the context. I think the theme was that Booth just wasn’t understanding this guy’s language and Brennan was. I don’ t think Booth needed to learn this guy’s language but just be reminded that people react in different ways and that sometimes Brennan may see things that he doesn’t. I think Booth can forget that there are other people in the world like Brennan and he should give them the same benefit of the doubt. It requires a different thought process than he would usually apply when dealing with people like this.

        It’s interesting because this is one of the few times where Booth and Brennan’s “gut instincts” have clashed.

      • Wow, other than agreeing that Booth didn’t like the guy from the beginning you are right, we are going to have to agree to disagree. Because there just isn’t anything else in here that I do agree with you on. But particularly this part:

        “If Booth was exposed to the scene with Brennan and RS, then I don’t think they could have kept up Booth’s stance without him looking very bad indeed. They needed to create some sort of conflict without Booth coming across as the definitive bad guy.”

        First of all he would have softened to the guy. Because he was behaving differently. But then that’s the point of learning a lesson. Which is why I don’t see this as a teaching Booth episode. This was a Cam learning a lesson episode. She had an eloquent argument made against her point of view. And then she had an interaction with the party that she had animosity to that built upon that argument leading to her being at a different place at the end of the episode.

        The final Booth/Brennan interaction here reminded me a lot of the gamer episode where Brennan says Booth has his own kind of math. That she didn’t understand it but she knew it worked for him, so she was fine with that. Lol, basically their version of an agree to disagree.

        In the end I felt for more empathy for the dead girl than her father. And it was nice to feel somethingfor the victim for a change. That doesn’t happen often enough in the show any more. I know they have said that Booth was going to deal with whether or not his job is too dangerous in regards to what he owes Christine. I wonder if they have planted some seeds here for that. Probably not. The show doesn’t really have that continuity level. But I think it would be interesting if it did.

      • So I am not sure if Booth would have “softened” to the guy. Booth wasn’t actually listening to what the father was “saying/doing” more because of his own biases about how people “should” react and my issue was that he wasn’t listening to Brennan either (ie Diner- not letting Sweet’s side with Brennan) which what he ended up having to apologize for. I just don’t think they would have played that scene where Brennan needs to insist for him to apologize if the show intended us to see Booth as doing nothing wrong and didn’t have something to apologize for and that it was mainly Brennan over-identifying with the father. For me they would have played it like that “gamer” episode instead. I definitely agree with you that this is a very similar situation but the only difference for me was that Booth *was* disparaging towards Brennan/RS’s “system” in the episode. Its not something I would hold against Booth because he did have some good reasons but he could have acted a bit more thoughtfully. I’ll admit to being very biased here because I did like RS’s character and thought Booth was a little hard on him.

        I definitely see your point and maybe that is the way it was intended to be seen, it’s just not easy for me to see it that way. Although I am finding the more I watch it the more I see Booth’s point of view so maybe in time I will come to think of it your way.

        I love the fact this is one of those cases where we really identify with the victim. Its been a long time since we have had a case that is so emotionally impact-full. It really felt like an older episode. Also I was complaining a few weeks ago that the end scenes weren’t as powerful anymore because it seemed to be that BB weren’t having any meaningful discussions around the cases. This totally negated that. I felt like after a long time I was seeing a scene where BB actually were talking “seriously” about something and their connection came charging through. I generally prefer the serious drama episodes to the comedy, so I enjoy BB conflict.

        I agree with you about the continuity thing, but that may be due to the fact that its a procedural. I think they tend to have poor resolutions when they tend to stretch out an arc. For example, the cam story felt a bit anticlimactic to me as well as the Pelant one. Also Sweet’s burnout seems to have been dropped as well. Sometimes they do stuff that I am not sure they meant as continuity or not. Like last year there were several episodes where Booth talks about needing a vacation and it felt like it came out of nowhere.

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  8. Booth does this almost every episode. He thinks someone is the murder and goes ridiculous cop on them. It’s the most irritating thing about him. I sometimes wish some of Brennan rational and logical thinking would rub off on him. He knew Brennan was irritated but threw freakazoid out there repeatedly. But that’s his character…..he’s a jerk sometimes.

    Brennan and the father’ sending scene was emotional. Tears welled up in my eyes. I felt his pain.

    Cam’s friend would have been under the jail. Really, b*tch?! No remorse at all, you have to spend some time behind bars. There are moments were Arastoo needs to put a sock in it and this was one of them. Cam could’ve forgiven her and let it all go….when “friend” was behind bars.

  9. Wow, I’m quite surprised by the negative response this episode got. Well, I do see your points and I do think TPTB went overboard with Booth’s characterisation, but seriously? This was THE BEST episode of the season for me. (sorry wedding-episode, I just do not do fluff, so I won’t be re-watching that one, but this! I’m going to re-watch it over and over and over… that’s how much I loved it; it ranks as the best in this season and right next to Patriot in Purgatory from last one, and is definitely somewhere in my Top 10).

    I bawled my eyes out at the ending scene. It’s one of the most beautiful scenes in the whole series. I’ll be probably bawling my eyes out every single time I’m re-watching (just like I do with the eulogy to the dog-Ripley in season 4).

    And the most frightening scene for me personally, was the first scene with the father. Just the first shot, with the father writing on board with BB standing there and even before Booth’s first line – in that moment I knew EXACTLY what was going on: tat the father was in a coping mechanism. Even before Brennan showed her understanding, I knew that this was the only way the father could cope with the loss of his beloved. It frightens me how much I relate and understand this Brennan (and the father)… But I do. And this makes this episode so much more touching/moving/hitting too close to home for me. And this is probably why I liked it so much, because I could relate to the story line and character development.

    And I agree with Brennan, that Booth was too rough and too little understanding. While as an observer of the show I can understand where Booth was coming from (and I do!), still, he was in the wrong in this case. But I don’t blame Booth. I think TPTB has gone overboard (that’s why I’m not so perturbed by him in this episode, to be honest, anyone can have a grouchy day…). What I do find so wrong with Booth’s characterisation is that he spent the last nine years with Brennan, understanding her and translating her to the rest of the world. So it doesn’t make sense why he wouldn’t be able to understand (even after a while) where Brennan and the father were coming from… I think this ind of characterisation would have worked better in earlier seasons, not so far into the series. But hey, not everything can be perfect, right? 😉

    About Cam/Arastoo… I was never a big fan of Mr. Vaziri, and unfortunately what they are doing with his character is not helping at all. When he confronted her with his speech of being imprisoned and wanting revenge and proclaiming if he hadn’t overcome his need for vagance, he’d never have Cam now, my initial reaction was: “so does it mean Cam won’t have you now? because she has different opinion?” he’s too sweet and too good for my taste ad comes as bland. I can definitely understand Cam’s feelings and needs.

    I liked Sweets’ profiling from the pictures (reminded me of Criminal Minds – which I like) and how he found the information about the drug and how Booth has sent him to do the interrogation. i like when Booth delegates the job to be done by others as he IS in a charge position after all.

    Hodgins and Ange, while not really focused on, were great too.

    I liked the teaser with the photographing couple and then the lightening striking out – did not see that coming – funny and ‘refreshing’ (in terms of how can body become in need of being expertised on by Brennan 😉 ).

    I also enjoyed the misunderstanding/irritation/’spat’ between Booth and Brennan. While I don’t mind fluff, I can only stomach it in small doses, and I dig so much more drama (with a little bit of angst), so this little conflict was a nice change. I was reminded of my fav BB episode – The Partners in Divorce. Another point while I liked this episode so much.

    Think I covered all 🙂

    • So i totally misspelled “vengeance” in the Cam/Arastoo part… Sorry!

    • So I watched the episode again and I totally agree with you on everything Mychakk! I actually like the drama between Booth and Brennan (I liked Partners in Divorce as well). Even if a couple has been together for years that doesn’t mean they should agree on everything or automatically understand where the other person is coming from. The strength of BB is that they don’t let any conflicts keep them apart for long. I think Booth on any other day may have seen this guys reaction as what it was a coping mechanism but since he was predisposed to see this guy as a child abuser and then once he realizes that Amanda was a gymnast the father then further frustrates Booth by calling him narrow minded, I can see where Booth is angry enough to not be giving him the benefit of the doubt. It felt like Booth just woke up on the wrong side of the bed in the morning and was quick to be annoyed by anything but I do think that this was still well within his character.

      I think the main issue was the Booth wasn’t “hearing” what Brennan was saying. Brennan was comparing herself to the scientist and I think was somewhat hurt by Booth’s comments that the professor was “weird”. But that end BB scene was so romantic. The way they lean their foreheads against each other and kiss, Swoon:) I like it when they make up after the “fights”.

      I am with you on Aristoo– he really comes across as being a bit bland. But I think it was one of the best episodes of the season too. In fact I think the last 3 episodes were the best of the whole season. There was just a lot more depth to the characters.

  10. Wow…I don’t know what I was watching because I loved this heh

  11. Isn’t it always the case in real life, that the closed people in a murder victim, especially if it is a child are the first suspects? I think Booth acted like other law enforcement officer would do. Some people get cleared early in an investigation, because the way they conduct themselves and most of the time the Police which is investigating can tell from years of experience who lies or stays suspicions until the facts are all in. The Math Whiz, the way he talked and doing his equations would make me suspicious too and I have to admit I think the things he filled the blackboard with, properly intimidated Booth and me too. Bones, as a scientist saw it with other eyes. The man was not so strange to her. And later she figured out what he was writing. So give poor Booth a slack, he redeemed himself at the end.

  12. I agree with Amy. Completely. I’m missing the spark from previous seasons. Go back and watch Season 4 and 5. Then tell me this is as touching an episode as any of those. It’s all getting too formulaic. I think the writers are getting way too lazy. And as touching as the final scene was with Schiff (guest star), I couldn’t help feel like the writers beat us over the head with their point. The whole thing could have stopped right before Brennan talks about angels and it would have still be a very touching scene. Maybe more so. And the Cam plot? That charater is getting the shaft. We need a real, sincere plot for her: Stat!

    • I understand your point of view. But the funny thing is, we can have a different one, right? Because I, personally, find this episode as touching as the Finger in the Nest (thats season 4 with the Dog Ripley and the dog eulogy at the end). It’s all a matter of perspective and what touches us I suppose. I’m sorry to hear you’re not enjoying the show as much anymore and I hope you’ll find enjoyment in the rest of the season.

  13. Ok, so I haven’t had the time to watch Friday’s episode yet (hopefully tonight!) But I just couldn’t wait to see what you all thought of it, so I spoiled myself by reading all the comments just now 🙂 haha.

    And now I’m really intrigued to watch it, based on the very different reactions people are having. I typically identify with Booth’s character (read my posts to find out why) and I hated the way he is sometimes written as a jerk (example: Yanks in the UK) when sometimes he acts so kind (like with his Asian friend whose sister was killed). Im curious to see how I will think of his character in this ep now!!

    Same with Brennan. Sometimes she will cry over the mistreatment of a tiger, and then sometimes she will go to her baby’s ultrasound with out Booth.

    So I will let you all know where I fall once I watch!

    • I hope you’ll find time to watch the episode, I can’t wait to hear/read your thoughts on it too! 🙂

      • To mychakk (and everyone else): finally watched it!!!

        Brennan was able to be an intermediate between Booth and the dad and translate both perspectives…she has grown.

        I think Booth’s reaction was normal for him, his personal experiences, and work experiences. As were Brennan and the doctor’s reactions. Neither were right and neither were wrong. I found everyone’s actions and reactions to be what I’d expected. Besides, Booth listened to her reasons for being upset, he admitted he had been wrong, and encouraged her to visit the doctor. He is still a reasonable and caring man, though he’s not always 100% right.

        Brennan’s understanding the doctor’s thoughts of suicide was a huge growth for her. I thought this was a logical extension of her changes and she’s showing ability to apply her new knowledge with her prior behaviors.

        Question: did Brennan ever have suicidal thoughts during the years she always said she preferred being alone and would likely stay that way?

        Ugh, Arastoo’s heavy handedness is annoying. I think Cam was doing no wrong by pursuing charges against that woman. Cam was not pursuing her in an inappropriate way, like stalking or trying to drum up false charges. She did wrong, she deserves to pay for her choices. I’m over him using his identity and past to slam every person in the lab. Finn, Hodgins, Cam…over it.

        Loved the ending between the doctors. Very sweet and beautiful.

      • Glad you were finally able to watch it 🙂

        So true about Brennan! She really grew as a character.

        Hm, very interesting question. I’m not sure we have any confirmation of her having suicidal thoughts, but if she had any I’d say the Doctor in the Photo is the timeframe for such an occurrence. I think this was the lowest time of her (recent) life and I don’t think she wanted to kill herself per se, but she might have wanted that car to hit her. If you can distinguish the difference…? (I actually wrote a fic about it… if anyone interested *shameless self-pimping :P*

        Also, totally agree with your take on Cam. I don’t blame her, she acted very natural to me. Arastoo on the other side, comes as unreal and preaching…

      • Mychakk,

        I don’t think of Doctor in the Photo as a potential suicidal point. At that point, I think she had become a strong enough person to withstand things that perhaps she would not have been able to before. I was thinking more of her earlier years, after her parents and brother left, and she had the foster care abuse–even up through her early working years before her connections with Angela and Booth later that gave her close friends.

        Mostly when she’d say stuff like this:

        “I sure know how to pick ‘em, don’t I?…I’m afraid my best isn’t good enough. I can read bones, not people…It’s a good thing I like being alone.”

        Now I’m not saying she ever was truly at that point of attempting anything, but just wondering if the thoughts ever crossed her mind. She guessed the doctor’s thought process so quickly, it made me wonder if she herself had had those moments where she was like “My family abandoned me, my foster families don’t love me, and I have no friends…what do I have?” She did find refuge in her work but was still very lonely for a long time.

        Avalon Harmonia nailed it right away: “The riddle you can’t solve is how… somebody could love you.”

        Even with all her success, she still wondered that.

      • So initially I was thinking that DitP was the only time she might’ve contemplated suicide. But I agree with BB that that was actually a moment of strength for her rather than weakness. It may seem counterintuitive but Brennan actually is in her strongest place emotionally when she allows herself to feel. If her barriers are up and she is hyper-rationalizing then that is when she is in the most pain. Her feelings did overwhelm her to some degree but if it really was that bad I am not sure she would have opened herself up to Booth about her regrets. If she was contemplating suicide to make the pain stop then I am not sure she could ever have decided to completely open up to love again. The real crux of the arc is that Brennan had her heart broken and was able to withstand it to the point where she didn’t close off to protect herself.

        For some reason I just don’t think see her thinking of suicide even in the earlier days. It would be interesting because that is something she would share in common with Booth if it were the case. But I feel like her defence mechanisms were more unconscious choices than conscious ones, so I just don’t see herself saying to herself “I don’t have anything left in my life so maybe I should end it”. I imagine her being confused with all the painful emotions and see her shut them off in order to avoid dealing and focus on her academics.

        The difference is now she can see what those defence mechanisms for what they were and know that if she lost everything including her work then she would have nothing left to live for. That being said, I think the mere fact that she can see what her defence mechanisms for what they are I think she would be able to survive better than she thinks. While she would be sad if she lost Booth/Christine, I don’t think she would close herself off again. She learned enough from the Eames case that doing that was self destructive. Plus she would probably want to honour Booth by knowing he would never want her to close herself off (“make sure your mom is happy, because if she is alone she is gonna forget”). The interesting thing for me and I am sure everyone else thinks differently is that I would worry more that Booth would close himself off if he lost Brennan/Christine. I take that from the best friend comment, Booth’s best friend really is Brennan and if he lost her I just don’t see him being able to open up to anyone else in a meaningful way.

      • I’m with bountypeaches about Brennan not being the suicidal type. I’ve never personally saw her as such and I don’t think she has ever contemplated “offing” herself. BUT. I still think that AFTER Booth rejected her in DitP she might have a low moment of regretting being alive and wishing she was gone. Just a passing thought while you lay in bed in the dark ad the events of the day catches up with you and all the angst slams into you… And you wish for it to be gone “maybe it would have been better if the car has hit me…” Something like that. But like you’ve said, she got strong enough at the time for this to stay only a passing thought. She’d have picked herself up and decided what’s done is done and there is no point of crying over spilt milk. And she’d have gone forward like she did.

        BB, you brought up an important part of Brennan’s past – her belief no one is capable of loving her. I think she just accepted it as a fact and moved on. (or more like tried to live her life with this “truth”) so I don’t think it would have made her suicidal. I think the fifteen year old Brennan wasn’t really thinking about her parents disappearance as “abandonment” but more like “something bad has happened”. So I think it made her determined to find out the truth, to learn why they were gone. I don’t think she was thinking in the lines of being left on purpose at the time. And because of her determination to find out what has happened she focused all her emotions into studies and ultimately become the Forensic Anthropologist. I kind of think she didn’t have time/energy to think about suicide at the time. And later on she had her job and peer respect to accept that all she has and it’s enough to make her “happy” and how things just …are. That’s why, when she met Angela and Booth, she struggled with the startling truth the she is in fact a lovable and loved person.

        Bountypeaches. I agree about Booth. As much as we see Brennan setting walls around her heart, Booth does the same, only when she buries herself in her work, he hides behind his open, easygoing persona. That’s why they are so perfect for each other. They are initially completely two different people, opposites. But in the end, deep down they are the same – two damaged, hurt, lonely, thirsty for love people. They are complementing (hope I spelled it correctly) each other with their differences yet are the same to understand what the other is going through and where they are coming from. They are like two pieces of puzzle. They look different but fit perfectly together to create a beautiful picture.

        Ok,I just went on BB-goodness tangent.

        Anyway, what I tried to say, I think Booth would truly close himself off if he lost Brennan. No, I think it would destroy him. Drive him insane. He’d break down to the point of being unable to function. I have been actually thinking about a one-shot with a plot along those lines. I see Booth going white over a night with grief and either dying shortly after Brennan (even if Christine was alive, I think knowing she’ll be taken care of by the Hodgins would have soothed his mind and he’ll just follow Brennan to the other side). Or if he’ll live, Brennan would be a taboo at the household, Booth would never smile and will not be really functioning but merely existing. That’s how I see Booth acting in the event of Brennan’s death. I’ve never contemplated Christine’s. I just don’t want to and so i won’t. I’m not sure if they’d be able to survive that…

  14. I think it’s amusing that the same people who really want Booth’s Cocky belt buckle gone (because he should have matured by now and doesn’t need that symbol) don’t have any problem with his behavior in this episode (excusing it by saying “Oh, Booth is just a jerk sometimes). That attitude seems inconsistent to me (I’ve seen it on other forums). The belt buckle is a minor issue, but calling his wife freakazoid isn’t so much. Plus, his daughter might turn out to be just as much a genius as her mom…is he going to call Christine freakazoid too?

    On another note, we’ve had some lovely moments where Brennan calls Booth “my husband”. I can’t wait until he finally gets to refer to her as “my wife”!

    • I like the belt buckle. And I didn’t think Booth was a jerk here. So I guess I must just be a rare exception. 😉

      I’m going to have to go rewatch again, but I think the only person referred to as freaky was Waters. Hmmm.

      • I agree with you Isolde! I like the belt buckle, “its Boothy”, I don’t think Booth was a jerk, and I see why he was suspicious of Waters and acted the way he did. I don’t get all this anger at Booth.

  15. No, he didn’t point blank call Brennan “freakaoid”. He called the victim’s father “your freakazoid mad scientist guy” and then later said “luckily you two speak the same freakazoid language”, so by implication he was, to me, calling her freakazoid.

    FWIW, I did’t really think Booth was being a jerk either…I was referring to other comments I’ve read. I think Brennan knew he was teasing her…she is smiling during that scene, and she is looking at him with love.

    • I don’t mind the belt buckle either way, but I can see why some would think it makes him look immature. But I agree comments like “freakazoid, nuts and psycho” are definitely a bigger deal to me in regards to demonstration of maturity. Maybe I have gone too far down the line of “political correctness” but I think Booth is beyond the age where those kinds of comments are easily excusable. I feel like a character can get a away with those comments if the character is supposed to come across as young and childish. In the beginning of the series when he had an insecurity complex with the squints, it made comments like that understandable (calling Zach weird) but now he should be far enough along in emotional maturity that it’s not “cool” anymore. He wouldn’t want his daughter learning that its okay to call people names. Especially since he would never want someone to call Brennan names like that.

      I think it was important for Brennan to call him out that “he was still doing it”. He calls Brennan out when she is not being tactful and I think this was a reminder that Booth isn’t perfectly tactful either. We have had many occasions to show us that and I don’t buy “its Booth” as an adequate excuse.

      I agree that the last “freakazoid language” comment had a more affectionate/teasing tone and Brennan knew that which is why she smiled.

  16. Its so interesting to read the range of opinions about this episode (probably the most viewer imput for a long time). I must declare that I am one who enjoyed this episode very much, however I do agree with many of the comments made about the way the writers are treating the Booth and Brennan characters. Too often now they have B&B take up positions on issues of the day as a means of one or the other “learning” a lesson. I wish the writers would give this away for good as the basis of a storyline. B&B are an interesting couple who work in an interesting environment with interesting friends – there’s enough in that to come up with great stories.

    It was wonderful to see Richard Schiff in a guest role and the final scene between Brennan and Doctor Waters was powerful. Congratulations to the writers for this scene which to me was worth the entire episode. Also the final scene between B&B was as strong and sweet as always. These two can always make us feel that love which is always strong and present between them. I believe Booth wasn’t fazed by his wife’s empathy for Dr Waters as Booth has always maintained that Brennan was empathetic and he understood her emotions and feelings when everybody else saw her as robotic.

    I have never been a fan of Cam as a character from her introduction in season 2, but I found her behaviour in this episode appalling. For someone who is supposed to be working in a senior position within the legal system the character is often unprofessional. Whatever her level of anger at her “friend” who stole her identity, assaulting her in the FBI building as well as cheating her way into the interrogation room to confront her is just wrong. Maybe its because righteous anger doesn’t do it for me although its often used as an excuse for various characters in many programs to act badly. I went off Cam completely at the time she cheated on the entrance requirements to get her daughter into a “good” university and there have been other episodes where she has been willing to lie to create a false picture of someone’s guilt. I appreciate that it is the writers who decide what the character will say or do but why have they chosen to portray someone in her position in this way. Agree too with the comments regarding Aristoo – far too bland to be true.

  17. I was thinking about this episode so more and it made me wonder if Amanda’s dad had been guilty would anyone of us be questioning Booth’s behavior towards him? Or is because he wasn’t guilty that we see it as Booth was to harsh towards him? Just a thought would love to read your thoughts about this.

    • A very good question and a very difficult one to answer honestly without bias for me. I had to think a lot about it but I *think* I would still say yes. Mostly because Booth was acting the way he was without being truly sure of the father’s guilt. For me once we found out Amanda’ was a nationally ranked gymnast it took the abuse scenario off my list on my first watch (that’s part of my bias). I just think its a very unlikely scenario that someone could stay at the top of a sport and be regularly physically abused to the point of bone damage without it affecting her ranking. So this then becomes a case of any other teenage victim. It could have been the father but it also could have been anyone else.

      Now I have seen Booth interrogate loved ones before who are viable suspects and rarely seen him belittle someone like this. He actually felt bad about having to question the father in the “ghost in the machine”. But here in the interrogation room, Booth kept emphasizing the word daughter as if Booth didn’t think Dr Water’s understood the meaning. When booth said “I am glad you like your predictability but we are talking about your DAUGHTER here”, i was like whoa Booth calm down this guy was just answering Brennan’s question, why are you taking it so personally? Booth’s main motivation for belittling the father stemmed from the fact that he felt the father wasn’t reacting like he *should* in spite of Brennan repeatedly telling him that is how she would act if that was her. Throughout the episode, it *felt* like he wasn’t acknowledging Brennan’s opinion that there was another perspective on the father’s behaviour like the way he shut sweet’s down when sweet’s was going to agree with her. He could have listened to what Sweets had to say even if he didn’t agree, that to me would have demonstrated that Booth was indeed just doing his job and open to different opinions rather than coming across as if he had already made up his mind on the father and treating him guilty until proven innocent.

      To me Booth wasn’t treating this as objectively as any other murder case so in theory for me it matters less if the guy is actually guilty or not. For example in lady in the list they find out the wife has motive and she was feeding her husband arsenic but Booth never got riled up like this. He could have yelled at her about how her husband was a good man and that she cut short his last few days etc. But this case felt more in line with the cases that Booth got overly invested in like “blood from the stones”. There Booth was flying off the handle without just cause. I felt very uncomfortable that Booth was withholding medications from the injured girl because he *thought* the girl was involved in the cops death. At the time I did think the girl had something to do with the cop’s death but I still thought Booth was out of line. In exact reverse of this situation, Booth thought the cop’s wife deserved comforting because her reactions were as expected but then we find out that she indeed was the killer. So knowing what I know I still don’t begrudge Booth comforting the cop’s wife even though she didn’t deserve it because he didn’t know it at the time. So for me the same thing applies here that if he doesn’t actually know if the father is the killer or not so he should be treated the same way he would treat any other loved one under valid suspicion. We have seen Booth play mind games with suspects where he tries to rile them up but it just didn’t feel like that was what Booth was doing.

      But like I said earlier, Booth definitely had some valid reasons for acting the way he did and if Brennan wasn’t there I could say that Booth was just doing his job maybe just a little too aggressively. But here he was being told by Brennan a viable explanation for the father’s behaviour and it felt like Booth wasn’t willing to take that into account. Booth’s a good guy who has very strong beliefs on right and wrong and he wasn’t being harsh for the sake of being harsh but it did come across as narrow minded and slightly judgemental. Does Booth know that people react to grief differently? Yes. But I think he was taking this case too personally for him to objective and Dr Water’s certainly wasn’t helping the situation.

    • This is a very good and a very hard question to answer to. I’d like to say I’d be as appalled as I was, but the truth is I’m not sure and actually I might not have been. To be honest I was not really questioning Booth per se, more like the writing of his character as not fitting in this timeline with the series. Also I noticed Booth insensitivity exactly BECAUSE of the father’s innocence (like I wrote above, I knew from the very beginning – even before Brennan – he was not guilty) and I’d felt betrayed if the father actually turned out to be the killer. So I am biased very much in my perceiving of Booth in this episode because of my affinity with the coping mechanism and recognizing it for what it was and what it means.

      Now about Booth. I think I can safely say I’d probably be not perturbed by his behavior even if it was a different case. Booth is a temperamental male, he tends to act especially in anger, during overwhelming feelings (to name some that come to my mind right now: s1. – the threatening of the leader of Mara muerte gang, s2. – punching Thomas Vega in Aliens in the Spaceship, shooting the clown, s4. – on hockey in Fire in the Ice and shooting the speaker in Mayhem on the Cross, s5. – shooting into the Lab in Proof in the Pudding, s8. – The Blood in the Stones – withholding the meds from the girl). And the last one example and my reactions actually allows me to say I wouldn’t have been questioning Booth’s behavior. Because I was not really affected in that episode (s.8), it actually seemed in character for me. What DID bother me in this seasons (s.9) episode is Booth’s disability to see the coping mechanism when he could see it in the past in Brennan… this seems like a inconsistent writing.

      • Thank you both for replying, I agree with you both if it had turned out that the father really was guilty I would have been upset that I felt sorry for him I could see that he was grieving but even then I wasn’t entirely sure that it was just grief. I kept waiting through out the episode to see if was just grief and not a combination of grief/guilty which is what I was starting to believe when Booth continue to be harsh towards him that maybe Booth was seeing more then I was. Even though I’m glad that the father wasn’t guilty and still believe that Booth was slightly to harsh towards him I kinda didn’t have that much of problem with how Booth acted. I don’t feel like Booth was entirely wrong but I also don’t feel that he was entirely right in how he treated him.

  18. “The interesting thing for me and I am sure everyone else thinks differently is that I would worry more that Booth would close himself off if he lost Brennan/Christine. I take that from the best friend comment, Booth’s best friend really is Brennan and if he lost her I just don’t see him being able to open up to anyone else in a meaningful way.”

    bountypeaches Your comment up above is very interesting and makes me think that you could be right that Booth not Brennan could be the one to close himself off if he lost her/Christine. If Booth lost them both it would not only be devastating and heartbreaking for him to bear but even make him question what he believes. With their deaths I think that it wouldn’t just be that he lost the woman that he loves and his daughter I think/believe that he could/would lose his faith as well and I also don’t think Booth could/would ever open his heart up to another person or let another person in again.

    • i definitely agree with you about Booth questioning his faith if he lost Brennan. But I’m not sure if he’d ultimately lost it. He’d question, he’d get angry, he’d even forsake his faith for a while, but in the end he’s a man of a great faith and believe in God in such a way that to me he’d return to God. I don’t see him blaming God for his loss. Maybe that’s why I don’t see him losing his faith.

  19. Hi All!
    I’m fairly new to this site, and this will be my first post! I really enjoyed this episode! It was very classic “Bones”, not too over the top and focused on the core characters, their relationships, and their behaviors. I really hope the episodes continue this way!!

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  24. HORE NOMOR DARI *PANGLIMA TOGEL* TEMBUS LAGI YAITU *588* TERIMAKASIH *PANGLIMA TOGEL* ATAS BANTUANYA AKU SEKARAN SUDAH BUKA USAHA SENDIRI.INI SEMUA KAYA MIMPI KARNA AKU NGA YANKA BISA SESUKSES INI, ..ITU SEMUA BERKAT BANTUAN *PANGLIMA TOGEL* BAGI TEMAN TEMAN YANG INGIN SEPERTI SAYA. TELPON *PANGLIMA TOGEL* INI NO HP YA *085=331=068=880* JANGAN ANDA RAGU UNTUK MEMBUKTIKAN NYA KARNA CUMA *PANGLIMA TOGEL* LAH YANG PALING BERSEJARA DALAM HIDUP SAYA, SILAHKAN ANDA MEMBUKTIKAN NYA SENDIRI… 😦 😦 😦

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    HORE NOMOR DARI *PANGLIMA TOGEL* TEMBUS LAGI YAITU *588* TERIMAKASIH *PANGLIMA TOGEL* ATAS BANTUANYA AKU SEKARAN SUDAH BUKA USAHA SENDIRI.INI SEMUA KAYA MIMPI KARNA AKU NGA YANKA BISA SESUKSES INI, ..ITU SEMUA BERKAT BANTUAN *PANGLIMA TOGEL* BAGI TEMAN TEMAN YANG INGIN SEPERTI SAYA. TELPON *PANGLIMA TOGEL* INI NO HP YA *085=331=068=880* JANGAN ANDA RAGU UNTUK MEMBUKTIKAN NYA KARNA CUMA *PANGLIMA TOGEL* LAH YANG PALING BERSEJARA DALAM HIDUP SAYA, SILAHKAN ANDA MEMBUKTIKAN NYA SENDIRI… 😦 😦 😦

  25. Terima kasih banyak kpd KI,AKENG…Ternyata Angka Yang KI,AKENG berikan ternyata Tembus degan anka 4D 😀 (5434) 😀 ternyata benar2 terbukti..Puji TUHAN saya mendapatkan kemenangan 157 juta..sudah banyak dukun/peramal togel yang saya mintai angka ghaib tidak ada satupun yang berhasil..AKu coba menjadi member KI,AKENG Cuman angka aki yang perna membuktikanya..jIka anda butuh angka ritual/jitu,SGP/HK..silahkan hubungi KI AKENG di 😀 (0_8_2_3_7_2_7_1_7_1_7_9) 😀 Demi,allah demi,tuhan ini kisanyata saya..thenk’z room’x zobat……!!

    Terima kasih banyak kpd KI,AKENG…Ternyata Angka Yang KI,AKENG berikan ternyata Tembus degan anka 4D 😀 (5434) 😀 ternyata benar2 terbukti..Puji TUHAN saya mendapatkan kemenangan 157 juta..sudah banyak dukun/peramal togel yang saya mintai angka ghaib tidak ada satupun yang berhasil..AKu coba menjadi member KI,AKENG Cuman angka aki yang perna membuktikanya..jIka anda butuh angka ritual/jitu,SGP/HK..silahkan hubungi KI AKENG di 😀 (0_8_2_3_7_2_7_1_7_1_7_9) 😀 Demi,allah demi,tuhan ini kisanyata saya..thenk’z room’x zobat……!!

    Terima kasih banyak kpd KI,AKENG…Ternyata Angka Yang KI,AKENG berikan ternyata Tembus degan anka 4D 😀 (5434) 😀 ternyata benar2 terbukti..Puji TUHAN saya mendapatkan kemenangan 157 juta..sudah banyak dukun/peramal togel yang saya mintai angka ghaib tidak ada satupun yang berhasil..AKu coba menjadi member KI,AKENG Cuman angka aki yang perna membuktikanya..jIka anda butuh angka ritual/jitu,SGP/HK..silahkan hubungi KI AKENG di 😀 (0_8_2_3_7_2_7_1_7_1_7_9) 😀 Demi,allah demi,tuhan ini kisanyata saya..thenk’z room’x zobat……!!

  26. Terima kasih banyak kpd KI,AKENG…Ternyata Angka Yang KI,AKENG berikan ternyata Tembus degan anka 4D 😀 (5434) 😀 ternyata benar2 terbukti..Puji TUHAN saya mendapatkan kemenangan 157 juta..sudah banyak dukun/peramal togel yang saya mintai angka ghaib tidak ada satupun yang berhasil..AKu coba menjadi member KI,AKENG Cuman angka aki yang perna membuktikanya..jIka anda butuh angka ritual/jitu,SGP/HK..silahkan hubungi KI AKENG di 😀 (0_8_2_3_7_2_7_1_7_1_7_9) 😀 Demi,allah demi,tuhan ini kisanyata saya..thenk’z room’x zobat……!!

    Terima kasih banyak kpd KI,AKENG…Ternyata Angka Yang KI,AKENG berikan ternyata Tembus degan anka 4D 😀 (5434) 😀 ternyata benar2 terbukti..Puji TUHAN saya mendapatkan kemenangan 157 juta..sudah banyak dukun/peramal togel yang saya mintai angka ghaib tidak ada satupun yang berhasil..AKu coba menjadi member KI,AKENG Cuman angka aki yang perna membuktikanya..jIka anda butuh angka ritual/jitu,SGP/HK..silahkan hubungi KI AKENG di 😀 (0_8_2_3_7_2_7_1_7_1_7_9) 😀 Demi,allah demi,tuhan ini kisanyata saya..thenk’z room’x zobat……!!

    Terima kasih banyak kpd KI,AKENG…Ternyata Angka Yang KI,AKENG berikan ternyata Tembus degan anka 4D 😀 (5434) 😀 ternyata benar2 terbukti..Puji TUHAN saya mendapatkan kemenangan 157 juta..sudah banyak dukun/peramal togel yang saya mintai angka ghaib tidak ada satupun yang berhasil..AKu coba menjadi member KI,AKENG Cuman angka aki yang perna membuktikanya..jIka anda butuh angka ritual/jitu,SGP/HK..silahkan hubungi KI AKENG di 😀 (0_8_2_3_7_2_7_1_7_1_7_9) 😀 Demi,allah demi,tuhan ini kisanyata saya..thenk’z room’x zobat……!!

  27. saya sekeluarga ingin mengucapkan banyak terima kasih banyak kepada KI_MANGGALA atas nomor togelnya yang kemarin AKI berikan yaitu angka 4D ( 1442 ) alhamdulillah ternyata itu benar2 benar tembus KI dan berkat bantuan KI_MANGGALA saya bisa melunasi semua utang2 orang tua saya yang ada di BANK BRI, dan saya sudah bisa bermodal sedikit untuk mencukupi kebutuhan keluarga saya sehari2.yang ingin merubah nasib seperti saya hubungi KI_MANGGALA di nomor :(_0853_3552_9777_) insah allah dijamin 100% tembus atau silahkan buktikan sendiri trima’kasih’thank’z room’x zobat

    saya sekeluarga ingin mengucapkan banyak terima kasih banyak kepada KI_MANGGALA atas nomor togelnya yang kemarin AKI berikan yaitu angka 4D ( 1442 ) alhamdulillah ternyata itu benar2 benar tembus KI dan berkat bantuan KI_MANGGALA saya bisa melunasi semua utang2 orang tua saya yang ada di BANK BRI, dan saya sudah bisa bermodal sedikit untuk mencukupi kebutuhan keluarga saya sehari2.yang ingin merubah nasib seperti saya hubungi KI_MANGGALA di nomor :(_0853_3552_9777_) insah allah dijamin 100% tembus atau silahkan buktikan sendiri trima’kasih’thank’z room’x zobat

    saya sekeluarga ingin mengucapkan banyak terima kasih banyak kepada KI_MANGGALA atas nomor togelnya yang kemarin AKI berikan yaitu angka 4D ( 1442 ) alhamdulillah ternyata itu benar2 benar tembus KI dan berkat bantuan KI_MANGGALA saya bisa melunasi semua utang2 orang tua saya yang ada di BANK BRI, dan saya sudah bisa bermodal sedikit untuk mencukupi kebutuhan keluarga saya sehari2.yang ingin merubah nasib seperti saya hubungi KI_MANGGALA di nomor :(_0853_3552_9777_) insah allah dijamin 100% tembus atau silahkan buktikan sendiri trima’kasih’thank’z room’x zobat

  28. SAYA UCAPKAN TERIMA KASIH KEPADA KI AKENG, YG SUDAH MEMBANTU KESUSAHAN SAYA DENGAN MEMBERIKAN NOMOR TOGEL KEPADA SAYA.
    SAYA SANGAT BERSUKUR SEKALI KARENA NOMOR YG DIBERIKAN 4D(6871) TEMBUS 100%.
    BERKAT SEMUA ITU SAYA SUDAH LUNASI HUTANG2 SAYA SEBANYAK 175 JUTA DI BANK BRI.
    DAN SAYA SUDAH BUKA USAHA BERKAT MENANG NOMOR TOGEL YANG DI BERIKAN SAMA KI AKENG….

    -JIKA ANDA SERING KALAH DALAM BERMAIN TOGEL…
    -APAKAH ANDA TERMASUK DALAM KATEGORI DIBAWAH INI
    1. Di Lilit Hutang
    2. Selalu kalah Dalam Bermain Togel
    3. Barang berharga Anda udah Habis Buat Judi Togel
    4. Anda Udah ke mana-mana tapi tidak menghasilkan Solusi yang tepat.
    HUB KI AKENG DI NO: 0-8-2-3-7-2-7-1-7-1-7-9
    .ANGKA TOGEL YANG DIBERIKAN KI AKENG.TIDAK PERLU DIRAGUKAN LAGI.SAYA JAMIN 100% TEMBUS . SOAL YA SAYA SUDAH MEMBUKTIKAN 5X PUTARAN SAYA DIBANTUH
    DIJAMIN ANDA PASTI MENANG SEPERTI SAYA>>>>>>
    .(`’•.¸(` ‘•. ¸* ¸.•’´)¸.•’´)..
    «´ Thanks sOb rOoMnyA ¨`»
    ..(¸. •’´(¸.•’´ * `’•.¸)`’•.¸ )..
    SALAM KOMPAK SELALU….dan selamat buat yg JEPE hari ini…..

  29. SAYA UCAPKAN TERIMA KASIH KEPADA KI AKENG, YG SUDAH MEMBANTU KESUSAHAN SAYA DENGAN MEMBERIKAN NOMOR TOGEL KEPADA SAYA.
    SAYA SANGAT BERSUKUR SEKALI KARENA NOMOR YG DIBERIKAN 4D(7303) TEMBUS 100%.
    BERKAT SEMUA ITU SAYA SUDAH LUNASI HUTANG2 SAYA SEBANYAK 175 JUTA DI BANK BRI.
    DAN SAYA SUDAH BUKA USAHA BERKAT MENANG NOMOR TOGEL YANG DI BERIKAN SAMA KI AKENG….

    -JIKA ANDA SERING KALAH DALAM BERMAIN TOGEL…
    -APAKAH ANDA TERMASUK DALAM KATEGORI DIBAWAH INI
    1. Di Lilit Hutang
    2. Selalu kalah Dalam Bermain Togel
    3. Barang berharga Anda udah Habis Buat Judi Togel
    4. Anda Udah ke mana-mana tapi tidak menghasilkan Solusi yang tepat.
    HUB KI AKENG DI NO: 0-8-2-3-7-2-7-1-7-1-7-9
    .ANGKA TOGEL YANG DIBERIKAN KI AKENG.TIDAK PERLU DIRAGUKAN LAGI.SAYA JAMIN 100% TEMBUS . SOAL YA SAYA SUDAH MEMBUKTIKAN 5X PUTARAN SAYA DIBANTUH
    DIJAMIN ANDA PASTI MENANG SEPERTI SAYA>>>>>>
    .(`’•.¸(` ‘•. ¸* ¸.•’´)¸.•’´)..
    «´ Thanks sOb rOoMnyA ¨`»
    ..(¸. •’´(¸.•’´ * `’•.¸)`’•.¸ )..
    SALAM KOMPAK SELALU….dan selamat buat yg JEPE hari ini…..

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